Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Job29Man » Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:57 pm

hisfountain wrote:"A hard man is good to find."

This is one of my Favorite quotes of all time! I love, love, love it!!! I adore Mae West! She is me and I am her, LOL! OK, I'm not really that bold talking around other folks, but with my DH I'm all about it. :D


HF,

Mae West is kind of an enigma for us. Sarah and I appreciate and quote her bold sexuality which was absolutely scandalous for her day (even today)! And of course she was single and bragging about sex and making light of sin "Given a choice between two evils, I always choose the one I haven't tried yet." But if a married woman quotes Mae West for her husband's benefit, I think it can give a real "zest" and healthy enthusiasm to their love life. My dear Sarah is like that too, she'll often say how good it is to find a hard man. And thus begins the wordplay between us. :wink:

Come to think of it, this kind of vocalization just lights my rocket. When my goody two shoes missionary daughter of a wife starts talking like Mae West it helps in the tent pole department!
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby blushingwife » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:01 pm

DH is 33, but due to health issues is going through several of the things you older gets are talking about.

I have always needed lots of help (physically and mentaly) for me to get anywhere before being able to enjoy sex at all. I am not at all saying I just lay there and don't do my part - just saying I need help too.
DH has needed the similar additional help from me many time the last year, so I agree completely with gymaddict and Job on this.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Job29Man » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:05 pm

Thanks BW, say... don't I recall you mentioning something about DH doing squats and getting some improved circulation that benefited the tent pole department?
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby blushingwife » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:23 pm

mmmm yeah... but that was a while ago when the issues were just slight.
He still does squats and several other exercises first thing in the morning. I am sure they help him in many ways and he feels better doing them. But the health issues picked up since I wrote about that in 2008 (?) and squats alone stopped making a difference. I have read that many experience improvement with serious exercising, but I wonder if it is just because they were overweight, which DH isn't.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Sarah1 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:03 am

Job29Man wrote:
Sarah1, you and Abe1 are special people. God bless you in your "young" marriage and the new babies... :D



Why thank you Job! :D
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Seekryt » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:39 pm

Mr. Rkt wrote:As to this touchy exchange with seek and dino,


Meh, not touchy. Although, upon re-reading, I see where I sound a little touchy - just didn't have a lot of time to expand. My apologies to any who thought they were being attacked or snipped at. Not at all my intent.

I think this is best understood when compared to a woman who loses her ability to produce any lubrication. To her DH, it may appear that she is completely unaroused. He must trust her on this, because without this outward sign, it may be very difficult for him to tell when she is aroused, or when PIV is possible. He cannot just barrell in, he must have patience and devote part of his attention solely to arousing her. Call it "responsibility" or "assistance" if you like, but it's the same thing. If she needs some help, she needs some help. It is what it is.


It's not really the same thing, though. In the case of lubrication, a little lube fixes it. To say the husband is "responsible" to "make" her lubricated is a bit of a stretch. A better comparison would be an orgasm. Ultimately, who is responsible? The wife. The husband assists in the process, but is not responsible for it.

Again, I have no problem with using the word "assistance". I do have a problem with the word "responsibility" being used here. Again, that also makes a wife responsible if her attempts to summon her husband's erection fails.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Job29Man » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:06 pm

Seek,

I understand.

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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Mr. Rkt » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:37 pm

Seekryt wrote:
Mr. Rkt wrote:I think this is best understood when compared to a woman who loses her ability to produce any lubrication. To her DH, it may appear that she is completely unaroused. He must trust her on this, because without this outward sign, it may be very difficult for him to tell when she is aroused, or when PIV is possible. He cannot just barrell in, he must have patience and devote part of his attention solely to arousing her. Call it "responsibility" or "assistance" if you like, but it's the same thing. If she needs some help, she needs some help. It is what it is.


It's not really the same thing, though. In the case of lubrication, a little lube fixes it. To say the husband is "responsible" to "make" her lubricated is a bit of a stretch. A better comparison would be an orgasm. Ultimately, who is responsible? The wife. The husband assists in the process, but is not responsible for it.

I won't argue the point beyond this post, but I beg to differ. It is exactly the same thing. I say this because we have experienced both in our marriage -- and the physical and psychological effects were exactly the same in both directions. I'm not being hypothetical here.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Job29Man » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:53 pm

Mr. Rkt wrote:these erections were so intense that any "bending" was difficult and full of pain.


Oh man! I remember those! Been a long time since then for me!
I haven't thought about the "fiercely firm" ones in many years. Probably many of us would LOVE to be able to get those back. I wasn't sexually active in those days, but I'll bet it would've been a bit of a trade off with not being able to last as long in the saddle.

I think I've heard some people say that they get close to this sensation with the erection drugs. I still wonder if a less turgid erection is more due to psychological factors i.e. there is no novelty in sex, or if it's truly a blood circulation thing. I suppose the drugs would indicate that it's about circulation eh?

The last time I had one of those "painful" tent poles was on the wedding night. Was erect most of the night, could barely walk the next day so sat in the hot tub soaking for hours.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby mom210 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:49 am

I do think the drugs help with circulation..and they are not problematic to take , as long as the erection quality is not caused by a major medical issue...that is why everyday cialis is so popular.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Mr. Rkt » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:51 am

In the case of the PDE5 blockers, they work spectacularly if that is the problem, and they completely leave the system when you stop taking them.

Job, I think what made the erections so painful back then wasn't that they were harder or fuller, so much as that the penile ligament was new and completely inflexible. Now that I'm older, it is a little more stretchy, making it possible to move an erection around a bit without so much pain. But forcing it down a leg was pulling on that ligament, and it hurt enough to make me shed tears, when I was a teen.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby dr_parsley » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:03 am

Job29Man wrote:
Mr. Rkt wrote:these erections were so intense that any "bending" was difficult and full of pain.


Oh man! I remember those! Been a long time since then for me!
I haven't thought about the "fiercely firm" ones in many years. Probably many of us would LOVE to be able to get those back. I wasn't sexually active in those days, but I'll bet it would've been a bit of a trade off with not being able to last as long in the saddle.

I think I've heard some people say that they get close to this sensation with the erection drugs. I still wonder if a less turgid erection is more due to psychological factors i.e. there is no novelty in sex, or if it's truly a blood circulation thing. I suppose the drugs would indicate that it's about circulation eh?

The last time I had one of those "painful" tent poles was on the wedding night. Was erect most of the night, could barely walk the next day so sat in the hot tub soaking for hours.


Well just anecdotally (and not bragging I've got diminution to look forward to as I get older), my circulation has always been excellent and (at 35) I frequently get the painful tent-poles. Anecdotally, I'm sure it's about circulation.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby gherkin » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:10 pm

just popping in to suggest that maybe "taking initiative" (to assist) would be better than "taking responsibility." The difference here is something I have had to sort out in my own head for different reasons than people here are dealing with, but in any case I'm comfortable with saying that it is good and okay for me to take loving initiative in various ways...
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby gymaddict » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:37 pm

Job29Man wrote:
Mr. Rkt wrote:these erections were so intense that any "bending" was difficult and full of pain.


Oh man! I remember those! Been a long time since then for me!
I haven't thought about the "fiercely firm" ones in many years. Probably many of us would LOVE to be able to get those back. I wasn't sexually active in those days, but I'll bet it would've been a bit of a trade off with not being able to last as long in the saddle.

I think I've heard some people say that they get close to this sensation with the erection drugs. I still wonder if a less turgid erection is more due to psychological factors i.e. there is no novelty in sex, or if it's truly a blood circulation thing. I suppose the drugs would indicate that it's about circulation eh?

The last time I had one of those "painful" tent poles was on the wedding night. Was erect most of the night, could barely walk the next day so sat in the hot tub soaking for hours.



Job: Lesser erections as we age are due to several things. I am no urologist but it is party vascular and partly neurological. Another theory or maybe fact out there is that fibrin develops in our penises as we age due to not as frequent nighttime hards and nighttime hards of lesser erectile quality.

There are new therapies on the horizon medically that offer promise. Some type of laser therapy supposedly removes fibrin from our penises and makes a guy as potent as ever. To that I say, "Please, FDA approve this soon." PT141 is a drug that is touted as turning us older guys into teenagers. It acts on the central nervous system and dramtically increases libido and erectile quality according to new releases. It has been approved in Europe but not in America. Something tells me that Pfizer and Eli Lilly have powerful lobbyists.

We men can improve our erections and nighttime hards at any age by doing Kegels. Try them. Mr. Rkt is correct in his comments about viagra, cialis and levitra. Those drugs can turn back the clock thirty years on your erection. They also give you more time for intercourse and they are fastly out of your system. I dont think men should fear these drugs but we should be cautious to any change in vision, blue tinges in vision or the other of the side effects listed. I have tried them all and have had no difficulty with them except to say that on a regimen of 20 mg of cialis every three days as recommended and prescribed by my endocrinologist and GP, cialis can make you anorgasmic and that is frustrating not to be able to come.

To Dr. Parsley, I say congratulations, man. Enjoy your great erectile health. Not many men at 35 are in your boat. I am green.

To all ladies who complained about taking responsibility for a husband's erection, I thought we had that cleared up. What I really meant was assistance and shared responsibility in a spirit of concern and marital kindness for getting it up for intercourse. I dont have to live in your marriages, but I would never blame my wife for any erectile failure. She is too great a girl and our 38 years together have taught me to appreciate and cherish the lady that she is in and outside TMB.

Where next on this tent pole subject, Job?
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby gymaddict » Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:52 pm

I forgot another cause of lesser erections: Venous leakage. That is an age related problem too that produces lesser erections. The valves that hold the pressure on our erections dont work as well as they once did. I would call that worn parts.

A [edit] ring can help any of the conditions that plague us older guys with lesser erections, and especially a problem with venous leakage.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby wife2misterawesome » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:00 pm

Job29Man wrote:Thank you everyone for this excellent discussion.


DH: "Wife, I love you and want you. But I also NEED you in a different way than I did as a younger man. This erection thing is no longer just all about me. It's not going to happen "automatically" anymore. I recognize you as a full partner in this marriage bed. You know how you need me to get you "lubricated" and "ready"? Well I didn't used to "need" you for erections. Now sometimes I do. I can't do this on my own all the time anymore. I need your active participation not just at the beginning but in the middle, and all the way to the end."

DW: "Husband, I'm there for you. You are my man and my big stud. I'm going to be whatever you need in bed to keep your fire burning hot and your tent pole up. And if I'm not "doing" the right thing, you just say the word and I'm ready to be whatever you need me to be to complete you in bed."

DH: "Thanks Hon', and if all that doesn't work, let's just have a good laugh about it, and a good night's sleep and try again tomorrow!" :D

DW: "You got it my stallion!" :wink:



Coming in late on this one, but I just wanted to share my experience.

Thank you for this post. This is exactly what I am doing with my DH. I have made myself completely available to serve him in any way I can. The other night, he lost it during PIV (I had about 1/2 an O) - he pulled out and fell back on the bed, saying he was done. I said, "Oh, no, you're not! C'mere and let me make you explode, too!" He very much appreciated that I was ready to satisfy him.

Actually, we both had a good laugh last night, as we were having PIV sex, and he was maintaining pretty well, but I just could not O. I was so focused on worrying about him, that I could not get into it. I told him that I "lost it", and he started laughing, and then I started laughing. He said, "Welcome to my world!" LOL! It was pretty funny.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Paul B » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:22 pm

There is actually an Erection Hardness Scale:

4 Cucumber
3 Unpealled Banana
2 Peeled Banana
1 Konjac Jelly (think firm Jello)

-or -
Grade 4 - Penis is completely hard and fully rigid
Grade 3 - Penis is hard enough for penetration but not completely hard
Grade 2 - Penis is hard, but not hard enough for penetration
Grade 1 - Penis is larger but not hard

Either way you need at least a 3 for intercourse.

I think by our age our penises get smart - they figure out that they are the main act, and they don't stand just of stage while the warm up band plays. Let's face it, in our younger days we spent a lot of time with an erection when we did not yet need it.

Even if an erection occurs, odds are it will fade away if it's not put to use fairly soon. This is NOT a sign of not being interested, or even of not being aroused. A bit of hand or mouth work from one's bride when an erection is needed and all should be good.

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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby igor » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:17 pm

Job29Man wrote: it used to be that Sarah would enter the room and say "Hi honey" and I was all like "Sproing!" Tent pole!

Over the decades it has come to take more than just a "hello" from her to get the tent pole. Sometimes the tent pole gets set up just fine, but doesn't want to stand up as straight as it did, for as long as it usedta without some additional help. Sometimes the tent pole gets a little "bendy". :lol:


Yes indeed - that is the same case here. I now normally need physical touch or kissing to even get started where before all it would take wold be a look or verbal hint of her wanting to be intimate and I'd be ready to go. Now, even when naked in bed, I will have trouble staying hard unless she pretty much pays constant attention to my missle. In some ways that is good because I love to have her stroke me as I am stimulating her during foreplay and I don't have to worry about it going too far.
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Re: Tent Poles, A Hard Man is Good to Find

Postby Eleutheros » Thu May 27, 2010 7:37 pm

Job29Man wrote:Mr. Rkt thank you so much for sharing so in depth. I'm really interested in comments about what people here have learned to get and keep an erection without use of pharmaceuticals.


Hey!

I was wondering, would you consider bio-identical testosterone a pharmaceutical? I wrote about my recent expereinces here concerning my own very serious ED problem. As well as the solution.

Do you remember Sienfeld on 'shrinkage'?

Yep. It really was like a frightened turtle. It was actually receeding into me and often felt numb.

Even Viagra had lost it's effectiveness on me.

In short, my testosterone was nearly zero. I began using a prescribed bio-identical testosterone cream and within a week saw a very noticable difference in my ability to get and maintain an erection.

An on-going difference that kept improving as I lost weight.

Now I'm hangin'! Just like in the good 'ol days!

And my precious one is very impressed!

Really, you need to have a blood work-up done on you by a physician who understands how to re-balance you using these bio-identical hormones. Because just prescribing these hormones without this understanding of balance will likely increase your problems.

Even if your physician poo-poos you, because he doesn't know of this, (remember doctors are humans, too, just like you. And they have 'good cause' to have big egos) the test alone will tell you something. 'Cause if your hormones are low, there will be no response because there is nothing there that your body can use to respond with!
I realize, now, that my mind was aroused by my wife but my body did not have what it needed to make my arousal apparent and thus useful. And yes, I did think, and debilitatingly so, that there was something wrong in my heart-of-thoughts because my body wasn't responding to my wife like she and I knew it should.
If your mind is aroused but your body is not then likely it is not 'you' or 'her' but your body needing something it no longer has. So, you will likely not be able to respond well to anything either she or you can do.

That being said, I would like to provide, from my own experiences, what you are asking for.

Job29Man wrote:So discussions that would be helpful are...

1. What a man can do before and during.


Think about sex with her. Think.Think.Think. Imagine it, in detail. And spend some private time nude to find out what you can think of that will coax him 'out of his shell'. Your mind is the best sex organ you have.

2. What his wife can do before and during.


For me there is nothing else as arousing as a good, erotic conversation with my wife, talking about what turns us on. A candle-lit room with a bottle of wine while sitting next to my seductively dressed wife also helps to enhance the conversation. But sometimes, just talking about our sexuality in the car is more than enough.
Also, does she allow you to tease, cuddle, fondle and pat her, during the course of the day? Does she return the favors? Would you find that arousing?

3. What kinds of thoughts might help.


Any that work.

4. Visual and other stimulus.


I find the sight of my wife, with her wedding ring on, 'opening her flower wide to the sun in my eyes' while 'showing me how its done' to be quite arousing.

Also, she knows how to 'give me a show' when she is doing me. This helps.

5. Nutrition, exercise, food supplements.


These aren't likely to help much if you need to loose weight. But good nutrition, while avoiding fast food like it was dangerous, which it is, will help. Supplements will only work if you have enough there for it to work with.

6. Other...


I like to read erotic poetry to her. As well as reading it on my own.

Also explore the meaning of Eros. There are some good articles on line about Eros written from a Christian perspective. And read some that aren't, as well.

Above all, know thyself.

I hope you find this helpful.

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Re: Tent Poles and Hard Times

Postby Eleutheros » Fri May 28, 2010 11:31 am

Hey,

I forgot to add, in my last post, my applause and praise for Gemma's reply to your inquires. Her advice seems to me to be very good for anybody who wants to have a great sex-life with thier spouse. For I perceive that she 'gets it' -good sex is a lifestyle. And so I think she does have authority when she speaks of these things she and GR know well.

After all they are happily married to each other and have lots of good sex.

I copied it here for your re-consideration:

Gemma wrote: I don't know about wisdom :lol: but I do have tricks. Most of these are really common sense so they might not be new ideas for anyone.

-In bed I stay as aggressive as my dh and I initiate as often as he does.
-I make it my business to know the best times for dh to have sex. It's not the best on work day evenings when he's exhausted and hasn't had a chance to rest to rest from his day. Mornings and during the nights are better than right at bedtime, though, he only needs 30-60 minutes or maybe a couple hours of rest from his day and then he's in rare form for sex.
-I feed him good, healthy food and I make sure he takes his vitamins and his Saw Palmetto each day.
-Regular exercise helps, nonsexual exercise.
-Outside of his work schedule, I work hard at keeping our schedule where it's not too heavy or too stressful.
-We do our best to go to bed on time and early. Sometimes he's up late doing phone consults. Life happens but our "norm" is to be in bed on time.
-I'm naturally a night person but my dh is very energetic during morning sex. He's often the one who initiates in the early morning hours when I'm still sleeping heavily.
-We sleep nude, ALWAYS. Our rule is: Nobody enters the bed wearing clothing.
-Even when we're not having sex our bodies are usually touching to some degree or spooning when in bed.
-We do our best to look and dress attractively for each other when not in the bedroom.

If I think of more I'll come back and add them.


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